Above are John and Jenny Deaves. They are a couple, and they are father and daughter. By having an incest relationship they produced a daughter named Celeste.

The reason I am posting this story is to highlight the hypocrisy of many around the world who would say it’s okay for Thomas Beatie to have a baby, but not okay for this incest couple to have a baby. Thomas Beatie is a woman who calls herself a man, and is now having a baby thanks to a sperm bank. Beatie was even allowed to marry a woman. Beatie also had her breasts removed so she cannot breast feed. Most experts know that human breast milk is necessary for a strong immune system, and provides nutrients critical to brain development, and those nutrients cannot be found in any formula, or other form of breast milk. The two most important nutrients are EPA and DHA. EPA helps nerve growth in fetuses and young infants. DHA has been found to improve visual acuity and neuromental development in premature, and mature infants. EPA and DHA are derived from long-chain omega-3 polyunsaturated fatty acids, and are considered esential to fetuses, infants, children and adults. Asian women, particularly those that ate large amounts of fish during their pregnancy, and while breast feeding, have children who demonstrate a higher IQ, as well as none of the problems associated with babies who did not receive human breast milk, or received human breast milk that lacked sufficeint amounts of omega-3. Besides the developmental difficulties this child will suffer from not breast feeding, the child will also have to deal with people who constantly question the fact that she has two mothers, especially since one mother dresses like a man, and takes testosterone shots.

Many in the gay community say that Beatie and her wife should be allowed to do what they are doing, that two men or two women should be allowed to marry, and even have children either themselves, or with a surrogate. The same gay community has come out against a father and his daughter having a baby together on the gay blogs today. I find this to be the highest form of intolerance, and hypocrisy. It is typical that gay bloggers, and many, but not all, from the gay community, would be intolerant to incest, but okay with so many other lifestyles that others consider wrong, yet tolerate. It seems the same people who yelled loudly for Beatie to be left alone, are now yelling about how wrong an incest relationship is. Hypocrites.

The similarity between the incest couple, and Beatie and her wife, is that both couples chose to have a child despite the fact that child will always feel like an outsider because people won’t accept what their parents have done, no matter how much they try to force people to accept them. People can’t help but notice differences, and can’t help but point out those differences. The child from both couples will be ridiculed throughout life, and it’s sad. The parents in both cases are irresponsible, and selfish. People need to think first before having a child. What both of these couples did was wrong, because a child will suffer because of their selfishness.

Most people won’t object to a heterosexual couple getting fertility help, but will if it’s a gay or lesbian couple, and will also frown on incest relationships. The reason for this is because heterosexual couples fit in with the majority, and are therefore considered by everyone to be natural, and normal. Gay, lesbian, and incest couples have to fight to be accepted, so when they have children they know the child will also have to fight their entire life to be accepted. This is why I believe gay, lesbian, and incest couples should not be so selfish as to have a child they know will suffer because of their decision.

The Daily Telegraph reports below:

A SOUTH Australian father and daughter have revealed they are a couple, and have had a child together.

John and Jenny Deaves reunited 30 years after Mr Deaves separated from Jenny’s mother.

Jenny was 31 and just two weeks after meeting, father and daughter had sex.

"John and I are in this relationship as consenting adults," Mrs Deaves told the Nine Network’s 60 Minutes tonight.

"We are just asking for a little bit of respect and understanding."

Their nine-month-old daughter Celeste, shown on TV, appears fit and healthy.

Mrs Deaves said soon after reuniting with her father she began to see him as a man first and her father second.

"I was looking at him, sort of going, oh, he’s not too bad," she said.

"Like you might look at a man across the bar at a nightclub."

Mrs Deaves brought two children, Samantha and Alex, into the relationship after splitting from her former partner.

Mr Deaves admitted that he "initially" thought having sex with his daughter was wrong.

"Emotions take over, as people no doubt realize, there are times during your life where emotions do rule the heart, it rules the head," he said.

"I knew it was illegal, of course I knew it was illegal but you know, so what."

Mrs Deaves said the physical relationship with her father was like "a sexual relationship with any other man".

For Mr Deaves the sexual relationship was "absolutely fantastic".

A South Australian police media spokesman said "the couple is being monitored".

Update 4-7: Judge Millsteed said today:

"This is not a case where a father has violated his daughter and used his position of authority to take advantage of her powerlessness. … this is a case of a mutually consensual union, formed by adults, who had previously had little contact. … the offence of incest exists not merely to protect children from sexual abuse. In my view, other relevant factors include the need to prevent the high risk of congenital defects of children born of incestuous relationships and to prevent children, who are brought up in a family unit founded on an incestuous relationship, from suffering psychological harm and social stigmatisation. Those factors assume significance in this case."

The judge agrees with my position that an incest relationship will cause children from that relationship to suffer "psychological harm and social stigmatisation." The same is true with children who result from gay, lesbian, and transgender relationships. Gay rights is not in danger, the children are in danger of "psychological harm and social stigmatisation." No one is saying Gays can’t have relationships with each other, just don’t go to a sperm bank, or hire a surrogate, to bring a baby into that relationship, because it can cause "psychological harm and social stigmatisation," just like an incest relationship can.

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