Comments on: Scott Eckern Harassed for Supporting Proposition 8

By: Isabel

Isabel — Sun, 23 Nov 2008 11:40:54 +0000

I think there is a double standard going on here. I am latin american born and raised in El Salvador w/ U.S. citizenship, and I am for prop. 8…
It baffles me how the media and entertainment industry feels like they are always right and are entitled to impose their views on other people…marriage in its roots is not a civil institution, it is a religious institution, and such institutions do not allow for same-sex marriage.
If the outcome had been favorable for gay people, and the heterosexuals were firing people who supported the gay campaign (such as brad pitt and other celebrities) there would be an outcry…there IS definetly a double standard. And as a latin american with catholic heritage: STOP Harrassing the MORMONS! NOSOTROS TAMBIEN VOTAMOS CONTRA LA PROPOSICION 8….it was a democratic process…respect it.

By: Alfred

Alfred — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:38:21 +0000

Civil Rights cannot be determined by popular vote!!!! Remember slavery and the 1960’s? DUH.

***HG Says***

There are two sides to civil rights. One side said slavery was right, and with that majority it was the law, then the majority of people said slavery was wrong, and slavery was made illegal.

The group on the other side of the law always says the group on the side of the current law is immoral, and wrong. At this time, gay marriage is banned, and that was decided by the majority of voters in California twice.

Civil rights is decided by popular vote, when judges try to legislate from the bench by overturning the first law voted for by the majority of voters, or legislators ignore the majority of voter’s wishes.

History always repeats itself. There’s a good chance slavery in some form could exist again. The next time it could be blacks making whites slaves. You might say slavery is wrong at that time, but if you’re black, and you own a white slave, you might not agree, and the law might not either. History has a lot to teach us, but it doesn’t always mean we won’t repeat the same mistakes.

By: Cody

Cody — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 22:07:27 +0000

America is not a free society. You have privilege. But you are not free.

By: Eric

Eric — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:17:43 +0000

First off 70% of people who voted for prop 8 were not black. 70% of the black population voted for proposition 8. I am still trying to piece together how that makes any difference. Second how is it that the gays have special rights because they cannot be fired for being gay. I cannot be fired for being heterosexual either, is that a special right?

By: booboo

booboo — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:54:38 +0000

As Michelle Malkin would say… Boo-freakin-hoo for poor Scotty. This is how the free market works. If you’re a businessman and you insult your customers, your customers are free to take their business elsewhere.

Why in the world would somebody who thinks gays should be treated like second class citizens want to work in musical theater anyway? Makes as much sense as a vegan wanting to work at a slaughter house.

By: Mary

Mary — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 19:24:37 +0000

Can you say religious discrimination? If I were Scott I would sue. This is shameful behaivor by Mark. If Scott did not hire someone because he/she was gay I could see a point. I think the gays/ lesbians are digging a bigger grave for them by acting like babies.

By: Hope

Hope — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 18:02:58 +0000

No wonder Prop 8 passed. Look at every hate filled comment from those who despise Scott Eckert decision to support a cause he believes in.

Compare that to the reasoned statements by those support Scott.

Yes, for now, America is still Democratic and the changing of Civil Rights is indeed up to popular votes.

By: Josh

Josh — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 17:35:26 +0000

They say it is about marriage and not about banning domestic partnerships or civil unions but that is not true.

The conservatives/republicans/christian right tried to put on a ballot measure that would have banned both gay marriage and domestic partnerships but it didn’t get through the process.

That is when they introduced a measure that only banned gay marriage.

The amendment in KY bans both gay marriage and civil unions. The amendment in FL bans both gay marriage and domestic partnerships.

The religious right does not want gays to have any rights at all– not marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships, adoption, protection against work place discrimination, protection from hate crimes, or protection against bullying in school.

They want to round gays up and send them to “reorientation camps” or worse.

No wonder gays are scared of these Christian groups.

Prop 8 took away pre-existing rights and so did the Ark. prop that takes away gays rights to adopt or foster care.

Civil Rights shouldn’t be up to popular votes. It was the courts that gave equal rights to women and African Americans against the will of the people.

By: Stallings

Stallings — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 15:46:54 +0000

I fully support Marc in what he said.
And I will continue to support homosexuals as long as they protest, because they deserve the same rights that heterosexuals have
Anyone who thinks differently, has no valid point to make regarding why they shouldn’t
You can argue about your faith, your god, or your belief in “upholding traditional marriage values” but in the end, it’s all pointless.
Oh, and just because the “majority” passes something, doesn’t make it right, after all, everyone thought that the world was flat and that the sun revolved around the earth, but it looks like they were wrong too…
Hmm

***HG Says***

You could be the one who believes the world is flat, and may be the one who is wrong, which could be why the Constitutional amendment banning gay marriage was passed.

By: Garron

Garron — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 10:13:24 +0000

Actually, it is not federal law that you can’t be fired for being gay. Under Title 7 (the employment discrimination act) you cannot be fired based on certain “classes”. Most of these include race, ethnicity, religion, sex, and sex+ (which is a subset of sex, ie. pregnant mothers, single parents etc). Oddly enough, sexual orientation isn’t one of them, and only few states have amended that. In most states, you CAN be fired for just being gay.

This of course only involves private businesses. The Government is not allowed to discriminate whatsoever so if you have a Government job, they can NOT fire you for being gay.

Just some clarification on fact. No opinion whether it should be right or wrong (although most legal signs point towards all states amending Title 7 to include sexual orientation)